Name that PENCIL or PEN [9]

So here we are again, this time with not one, but two mystery pencils!

The question is, what links this unlikely couple? Bonus points for guessing both makers.

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Looks like they’re European… from the 1950’s? An old British brand, like Stanley of London?

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I’ll give you European, but unfortunately not Britain.

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I can’t even come close to an idea of which pencil this is but it smells French to me.

Ce ne sont pas les porte-mines que vous recherchez.

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Penkala on the right.

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Penkala on the right is right!

The other one is from the same era, but a different country. Despite their differences, at one level they are twins.

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Maybe the one on the left might be from Eastern Europe/Russia.

Kimex, perhaps? Bohemia Works, before it became KIN? Automat Krakow?

The grooves in the metal grip might point at a twistaction mechanism, with the slot acting as a lead retainer (as in the Penkala, I suppose).

I’m tempted to say that these were both compass leg attachments, but I know this is not true for the Penkala, so I might be very wrong here!

Not East European, not twist action, not compass inserts.

However, both pencils do have a second function.

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From the pictures of the Penkala I can find online, I think the metal end of the Penkala can be removed, thus leaving space to accommodate a metal nib to make it a dip pen for inking — but I am highly unsure about the actual usefulness or functionality of such a solution.

Still, by looking at the other pencil, I doubt this is the answer, unless there is a slot for a nib pen on the other end of the barrel.

Very fascinating mystery, I will be waiting for the mont of final revelation.

On this occasion, ink is not involved.

As another clue, here is the pencil end alongside a contemporary advertisement:

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A profile like the one in the leaflet reminds me of some cutting tips with a sharp edge one can mount into compass clamps, for a freehand cutting movement. rOtring had something similar, but with much more specialised cutters; also, I think the cutting tips I mean were made by other manufacturers, and re-sold as well for rOtring compasses.

Does the tip of the pencil work like a swivel point? It very vaguely reminds an Oli Rotomin, or a Speedraft, but it is probaly much older.

Another possibility is that it could work with metal needle tips, like the ones used by engravers on copper plates; the Italian term is “puntasecca” (dry point), and words fail me right now about the corresponding English or French term.

This is really head-scratching…

It doesn’t cut, scratch, or prick - indeed, the metal tip has no moving parts at all (excepting the natural spring of the slit).

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Nope, just a plain ol’ 2 mm lead.

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Correction: I just measured the lead with a micrometer and it came out as 0.087" or just under 2.21 mm. Very much not plain ol’ 2 mm lead!

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Wait a sec… Could it be one of those “rotary pencils” with the other hand carrying a sphere made of metal flanges, used to help secretaries to quickly dial phone numbers on a rotary phone? Something like the Dur-O-Lite KS8300 produced for the Bell Systems? [Picture taken from an Ebay listing.]

I have seen some of those on sale on Ebay, but never got one, as I lack the phone to pair such item with.

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It isn’t one of those, but you’re getting warmer!

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By the way, it turns out that the 2.2 mm lead mentioned above may be significant after all. Good thing I bothered to measure it!

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Are these so-called ball pencils with a tassel or a similar decoration at the end?

I feel like I’m watching an MP-fied episode of HOUSE MD!
Taking notes furiously

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