I guess there were 6 or 7 brand names for this style. Is Ohhira the OEM for all of them, I wonder?
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I’ve also been wondering if anyone has had a chance to physically compare the Luddite Postdraw with these.
#1- FUJI CORONA 0.3mm
Edit:tied for #1 if the Mitsubishi MX-100…. It is a dream….
#2- Kokuyo 0.5mm (Im probably biased due to it being quite used before my purchase. But if it was NOS I’d pick it over the Fuji…. That is if the kokuyo was 0.3mm as well)
Edit2: and tied for #2 is the F.C. Aviator…. It’s one beautiful piece…
#3- BRASS Manufactum.
#4- Postdraw. (Intentionally spaced farther 
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(More can be added to this list of double-knocks[-ish], but overall this is my opinion)
Edit: list based on what I own***
Edit3: hopefully I’ve covered everything now
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How about the Pilot Hi-Mechas or the PSD5?
I will forever assert my opinion (humble opinion) that the PSD5 is a much better pencil than the 1000 or 2000 series Pilot high mecha.
I have not held in my hands a 3000 series but I would also add that the PSD5 was better than the Young Gentleman as well.
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Shit…. You are right… SOMEHOW I forgot about the beauty H-2103…. And H-3003…. In my defense, I was a bit tired, and maybe love too many double knocks
The pilot h100x is THE most boring double knock imo.
I don’t have one, but I don’t think the H-100X is boring. It’s quite a straight-forward pencil with almost no bs except for the lead indicator window (serious high-end pencils like the QX or the Automac or even the Orenznero have ditched it completely). Has anyone ever used a lead window indicator?
Same goes for those completely useless erasers inside the cap, which are a particular pet peeves of mine. But then, you set your criteria for collecting things: I prefer no bs pencils and only streamlined pencils that were meant for schools, work, general use (i.e. not for collectors, like they’re doing now). That’s just a choice. And then I don’t need the full series and not even one of each. Just the ones I like.
Maybe I’m allergic to completion. I think the world is imperfect and increasingly hybrid and always failing (always chaotic and betraying your efforts), so the idea of completeness is lost on me.
Reality is almost nobody uses pencils any more at an industrial scale like before. They’re not really needed. That’s why you struggle to use yours, eh. Just when any BIC will do, you will remember you paid $75 for a limited brown colour Zebra Delguard and then you’ll force yourself to use it! Ahahahah.
Before this boom with collecting that started in 2015 or even later, most brands were doing cheap plastic pencils with kinky grips that costed between 3-5 dollars/euros trying to get school kids to buy them… But finally pencil brands found out their last el dorado with collectors and are now making endless colour variations, skeletons, LE’s, special editions, etc. It’s big enough for some new brands to pop-up, trying to emulate the perfect pencil. But I digress.
What I mean is — nothing now has to do with when, say, the H-1005 came out.
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The h1000 is nowhere close to being in the same league as the Nero. In fact, most Jibs kill it quality and performance wise…
I find Lead indicators incredibly useful…. Unless you use a single type across ALL your MPs…. They indicate which lead is inside.
I draw, so I utilize them constantly.
As far as the erasers go, I view them as “precision” erasers. They aren’t meant to be used as ‘sentence’ erasers….
Edit: tools are often used for their intended purpose. Moreso though, they are used because they “serve the current required purpose required”. 
HOLY COW! 
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I’m a painter and a practising artist and I draw all the time for a living — but not with thin lead… Give me a normal wood cased pencil. Or a Bic pen, it doesn’t matter. The real thing for me is actually charcoal sticks (curiously the thinner the better because you can make it look like you’ve drawn with a pencil with a charcoal stick) , so I understand you and I don’t understand you at the same time.
In any case I’ve never forgotten which lead is inside which pencil, so I’m sorry to say I don’t find the indicators useful. Or maybe they’re just not practical? Idk. I don’t need them, I don’t use them.
If you like them, then ahoy matey arrhgn gnarlg, ya go for it’ll.
In reality I don’t use 03 05 07 much. Just 09 onwards. Does lead hardness count at that level? Not much since you can lift or press and the result is the same as if you kept changing pencils’ hardness.
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Come on, you’re doing a drawing, an illustration, whatever the purpose is.. @Hammer_Jackson do you ever change leads?!
You most likely do not! you just adjust hand pressure
In fact, that’s what you should do to make a “good” drawing
I’ve taught Drawing… You’d only need a sharp HB pencil in my class. And you can keep your phone and everything else but please… no erasers. Erasers out!
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With all due respect, why is one style of drawing and the preferred tool a point of contention?
Maybe in your class you teach how to draw, maybe how to draw everything. But there are people who choose markers, pens, pencils, paint, even fingers or maybe just throwing something at a medium. Neither is superior and neither achieves a superior product.
All things considered, I don’t understand how there’s even a logical assumption that you KNOW how a person draws all because of your preference.
The entire drafting pencil business would be moot and defunct if there weren’t a need for different sizes and hardness and shape.
Jimi Hendrix played a right hand guitar upside down with his left hand. Every guitar teacher would’ve told him that isn’t correct!
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It’s not a matter of better or worse or higher or lower. It’s because it’s a school —and precisely— it’s important that you are able to do everything with the simplest tools you have around you and start looking for more.
Drafting pencils (mechanical pencils) were developed for tech drawings, they don’t bring anything new that a pencil can’t do — and more, they’re much less expressive, because they are shapeless in a way.
Sigmar Polke (a great artist, we can all agree to that) chose to draw with ballpoints because he didn’t want his drawings to have any expression whatsoever. Variations of line, mistakes, etc. He wanted it to be like the stuff you see on commercials.
If you’re in the same vein, then be my guest and use 05, but usually artists experiment with a lot more dirt.
In drawing classes HB pencils are preferred because they have the ability to do anything. Gradations with 1 tool is preferred over changing tools. Economy of means is a principle of post-modern drawing classes. You can do anything you like, of course, you can buy all the markers in the Montana range, or the COPICs or that glorious NYC brand I don’t remember right now, but you don’t have to.
Right?!? I’m an innovator.
So then it seems we agree, you’re making the point I’m making.
You don’t know hammer or what he draws or how he draws it, so the sideways remarks and sarcasm that imply a superiority are unnecessary.
Well, I’m a left handed guitarist too! JH didn’t play upside down, as in a prep’d RH guitar…
Check here:
the guitar is upside down but the strings are reversed
Glad we have the same refs, btw!
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Touché, I didn’t know that. Thank you
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I’m also a guitar player. Albert King, Otis Rush, and Doyle Bramhall II are true “upside down” players.
I’m left handed but play right.
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I’m sorry if that was what it looked like to you. Not my intention.
You think that’s what I was trying to do? Then you don’t know me either.
I was simply trying to say after Hammer said that he draws with MPs and uses lead windows all the time (I felt a try at superiority there), that I draw a lot too and I don’t think thin lead pencils are the best tool for drawing like that. That’s all.