Why I hate the Kuru Toga mechanism

@alain4s Your handwriting looks amazing! The clean, sharp lines are just so satisfying to look at, I had to say it again.

For me, the best thing about the Kuru Toga mechanism is how it keeps the line width consistent. I really agree with what @Leonov mentioned earlier. When it comes to everyday drawing and writing Asian scripts with lots of short strokes, Kuru Toga works really well. Uni comes from an Asian background, so this design approach makes a lot of sense. The whole idea is to use a mechanical solution to prevent uneven line thickness. But for people who enjoy the natural chisel edge that forms on the lead, and like controlling that edge while writing, it can definitely feel a bit frustrating since it goes in the opposite direction.

When writing continuously, like longer drafting lines, cursive English, or even flowing Chinese cursive with mixed stroke lengths, I noticed quite a while ago that Kuru Toga loses its advantage. In some cases it actually makes line variation feel worse, and the control becomes less precise. This feeling is even more noticeable when writing in a small or tight space. For users who are used to that chisel edge on the tip, the mechanism can become distracting. And honestly, if this happens while dealing with annoying work stuff, it can get a bit frustrating.

Recently I had my 11-year-old kids, who are used to Kuru Toga, try thicker leads like 1.3 and 2.0. Their reactions were very honest. Lots of complaints and not much love for it, which is totally normal and honestly pretty cute when they are figuring out what works for them. While they do enjoy this hobby with me, I don’t think their love for Kuru Toga is really about the mechanism itself. It feels more like they enjoy the visible movement and variety of the mechanism, something that makes long and repetitive schoolwork in the Asian education system a bit more fun. I think this might also apply to some Kuru Toga fans in general.

Kuru Toga has already done pretty well in the market. This discussion wasn’t as intense as I expected, but it felt very real and honest. I used to spend a lot of time in more one-sided communities, so the atmosphere here feels much more comfortable. I really love forums like this where different opinions are welcome. It’s a bit chaotic in a good way, free and full of different perspectives, which is awesome.

In the end, I’ve always believed this: There is no perfect tool in the world, but there is definitely a tool that fits you best.

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You missed the text below the image…

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Maybe @TomYang happens to really like Mongo!

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@alain4s Haha please forgive my aging eyes. I really didn’t notice the note at the bottom.

Besides the text itself, the first thing that caught my attention was actually those two arrows in the top right. They look like they came straight out of a vector design tool, just as clean and sharp as the writing.

@darkwingduck I also really enjoy writing in cursive English, especially when signing. It’s so much faster than Chinese. But since English isn’t my native language, my handwriting is probably more of a “Mongo style” too.:sweat_smile:

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Ineffable? That’s what the girls called me in high school.

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You may enjoy this:

So, I wanted to try out the Kuru Togas (KT Metal, KT Wood) and found the wood to be the most comfortable for long writing sessions. I liked keeping a finer point w/o going to 0.3.

Then thought the Advance upgrade with faster engine would be even better, but that is the LOUDEST pencil I ever used. However, I really like the form and feel in a shorter pencil and with retractable sleeve…

even better. My weird solution? I used duct tape to disable the dampening action (which caused all the noise)…and now it is a nice cheap EDC pencil that doesn’t drive me insane​:joy:.

(From the tales of Stupid and Unnecessary Solutions….)

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Isn’t that why most of us collect pencils now? Hahaha

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Interesting discussion. A Kuratoga of some variety was on my list, and may remain there, but the purpose driven design takes it mostly out of my use case. I value the ability to intentionally use the chisel flat especially for shading. And while I was taught cursive, I attended an Episcopal school for 7th & 8th grade where students were made to use fountain pens and write in italics. One could NOT write in cursive with the provided wide nibs. Even though I missed the years when penmanship was taught, I had to adapt and was still graded on penmanship. Once out of that school, my cursive was basically wrecked and I now have this fairly awful connected chicken scratch. Conversely, I’ve been asked if I was a draftsman due to my block lettering. That’s thanks to using rapidographs making geologic maps in undergrad. While I wish I hadn’t tossed my grade school fountain pens, I don’t miss the rapidographs at all.

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I did some landscape hand drafting in college and enjoyed learning the techniques to illustrate textures and materials in the drawing and keys sections. You should post some pics of your geology maps if you still have some!

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