What is the best (most functional, practical) clip design you like?

Many (often machined) pen(cil)s have an issue with the usability of the clip.

I think the best clips are those that are spring-actuated by a torsion spring (like the graphgear 1000 assumingly), or the Lamy 2000 (coil spring).

There’s also this type of springless lever clip:

Which is also coined the ‘Tonfa-clip’ because of its resemblance to the chinese/japanese weapon.

Clips that have to be lifted in the front are easy to mess up, and many are way too hard to deform (e.g. usus.pi IMO).

Do you agree? How would you design your perfect clip?

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Caran d’Ache’s modern Fixpencil clips are pretty good looking and sturdy.

KIN 563X are overall the most successful in the economy-of-means category…

…but in that same category, METAPHYS Locus has better looks.

I agree that the Metaphys has the best functionality for my taste (it’s very discreet in your pocket and the pen sits deep so there’s little risk of losing it). However it can be unpleasant to use as a knock, even painful if you have to do it repeatedly.

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I love the asymmetric wire clips that the Tombow AirPress pioneered, and have now become the style du jour on numerous Uni gel and hybrid ink pens like the One, One F and One P.

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I like this style as well. Simple, does not deform, and keeps pressure on a pocket to hold a pen/pencil in place. Also, a good fidget!

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I like a clip that doesn’t get in the way of rotating my pencil.

A stupid idea I’ve played with is having the tip of the clip submerged into the pencil body, similar to the GG1000.

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Can you share a pic with the clip in that groove? Very intriguing.

The OHTO Flat-C is probably the most famous pencil with a recessed clip. Porsche Design also has a model like this.

I am notoriously against clips on any writing instrument, but I will leave here that there is a type of clip I actually tolerate, as I noticed it with favour when I spotted it. My basic idea comes down to a very short clip which does not interfere with the pencil rotation as I write or draw.

The best removable clip in this sense is the one on the Pentel Graph for Pro series in my opinion: short flange, compact design with fun proportions, non-intrusive deployment, humble but actually functional. If I really had to keep it on, I would not mind that much.

The best non-removable clip I have seen so far, instead, is on old Shaeffer’s Tuckaway twistaction mechanical pencils (“Lady” or “Sentinel” lineups); it is so small to look almost ridiculous, but it I love it. It is the pencil counterpart of the beak of an ornithorhyncus, you have to see it.

In the same general framework, the Sheaffer’s Imperial MP’s have a palatable clip, and in the case of the ballpoint pen that very pocket clip, much in the same fashion as the Pentel Graphgear 1000, acts as a retainer to keep the tip out during use.

More on Shaeffer’s catalogue of pencil can be found here, with some colseup pictures of the Tuckaway “beak” which I strongly encourage everyone to see, even if just to put a smile on your face in this lava-hot Sunday.

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There’s a nice history of the Sheaffer mini clips here:

https://richardspens.com/ref/design/milclips.htm

Apparently it originated with army regulations prescribing that nothing should protrude from the shirt pocket flaps.

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I heard this story from a seller with a stationery shop close to a military compound, but for a while I labelled as folklore, as he mixed pockets, clips, epaulettes, and other elements in a vague recollection. Turns out that the expression “military-grade specs” has a precise meaning for pencils too, which is amazing per se.

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What are your thoughts of this? The pen is milled from a single piece of material and the “clip” is integrated into the pen body

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I know these are not pencils but how do you feel about pen designs like the Dyson Biro and Lamy Noto? Where the clip is integrated flush to the body profile?

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I really like the clip on the OHTO FLAT-C. It’s partially recessed. It lays flat. And it’s not only spring loaded but it’s easy to put to use when you need it. By itself it is still a useful anti-roll device.

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@drifand and @Ethan_PT7 : the recessed “clip” in all these designs is certainly an interesting variation on the theme, and has the clear advantage of removing the very source of the “problem” from the outset; some executions may be better thought or crafted than others, but it is for sure a solution nonetheless.

Unfortunately, at least from my perspective, these different form factor scan sometimes introduce a cure which turns out to be worse than the ailment itself. To begin with, the integrated clips like the one in a Dyson Biro (or specimens alike) introduce a discontinuity in the barrel structure which I find very “unnatural”, and certainly unappealing: I have always seen the pencil or the pen as a materialisation of our fingers, or of a scalpel, or of our own thoughts, and I cannot imagine either of those concepts as being “hollow” in any way, shape or form.

Setting aside for a moment the issues of mechanical balance introduced in the process of milling or caving part of the rear barrel, and ignoring the possible torsions of the fabric in a pocket induced by the placement (even deeper than usual) of the clipping negative space, the “hook” created by the clip being part of the body introduces in and of itself the same sensation of unevenness and “scratchy-ness” a standard clip would make me feel while I write or sketch. We are basically trading a set of problems for a vaguely different set of problems, or rather a similar set of problems with a wholse new set of constraints.

The additional hassle in this scenario is that, while a traditional clip can be (in most cases) simply slid off of a barrel, in the case of a Dyson Biro one ought to physically reconstruct the barrel in order to restore a perfectly cylindrical or tapered body. Which is, obviously, madness.

I reckon that the integrated clip can be for sure someone’s cup of tea — I myself bought a stylus for a tablet screen with that design a few years ago: not bad at all, considering I seldom used it — but when it comes to strict preferences I still choose the naked and whole power of an un-modified barrel, possibly cylindrical and with a removable clip.

I appreciate, however, the amount of ingenuity and creativity stemming from such a design principle, and I find some bolt-action artisanal pieces really well made. :slight_smile:

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Then of course, Leonov, you love the Tombow V472!

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You can say it out loud; I do love the Titan/Tecnic by Tombow! :smiley:

By the way: the España MP from the same “La Nave” lineup has a very flamboyant clip, and I was sure it would have been an annoyance; it is not. In view of the wafer-like shape of the body, I cannot rotate the pencil as I write, so if I manage to keep the clip out of my way, it is basically as if the clip itself were not there at all.

[I would be curious to find a suitable replacement pushbutton for the España, as pressing the clip is the only way to knock the pencil: I imagine a perfectly fitting machined piece in light alloy, with the elegant curve of the clip traded for an upper sphere or some equally iconic shape, but I think this will remain an impossible task.]

Also, I love every pencil which, after the clip is gone, retains its impeccable balance. Uchida, MistuBishi, Pentel, Faber-Castell and Caran d’Ache have probably the best “de-clippable” pencils I have ever seen, but the search continues…

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And don’t forget the La Nave Oceanic

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Me: Thank you for bringing the Dyson Biro to my attention. It is exactly the kind of interesting pens that I like to collect.

My wallet looking at the eBay resale: :smiling_face_with_tear:

Mercari has them pretty cheap most of the time

https://zenmarket.jp/search.aspx?browse=27&category[27]=1196&q=Dyson%2Bbiro&searchMode=custom&stores=27

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Oh that is much better. Thanks!

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