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I think you should know it…
That clip reminds me of Pelikan, but I doubt they ever produced 2mm clutch pencils…
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This is the closest that I have.
It looks like the nose cone is similar if not the same, but the clip is different, and the knock is different as well.
Maybe a cousin?
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Yes, it is not a Pilikan…
How typical these two pencils are!!!
Mine is the same but with a different brand…
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All right, I was waiting for Dan, but I know it is unfair to everyone to guess this brand, simply because it is a “re-seller” brand. It is LIETZ, a company that used to manufacture heavy drafting equipment but added the name “LIETZ” to many brands, such as some Staedtler Leadholders, the Koh-I-Noor Adapto leadholders, the Tru-Point Lead Pointers, etc.
With the identical resemblance to the Traco leadholder @ 2mm_Collector just shared, it seems that this leadholder is manufactured by Traco and was re-branded to LIETZ.
LIETZ was sold in 1984 to the Japanese Sokkisha (now known as Sokkia) to probably become the world’s largest manufacturer of heavy surveying equipment at the time.
Note that the model number 3785-C is for the shorter version of the model number 3785.
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Very nice
Thank you
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Tacro 4439
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That 4434 is a great shape!
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I recently starting noticing those Staedtler with the painted tail and I have been trying to acquire them but everyone wants too much.
I knew you would have these Staedtler versions! 
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Anyone know that there is a wierd version of the Traco 4434 called “Professional” if I remember correctly, and that accepts different lead sizes, from 1.9mm up to 2.8mm? I will show you a photo when I get back home.
Is it anything like the KIN 5613 Professional?
Not really. I just checked, and it is actually called the “Universal” version of #4434, not the “Professional” one.
it is a very rare leadholder that takes leads up to a little less than 3mm. It has a thick brass inner tube that measures 4mm from the outside and about 3.2mm from the inside.
Here it is:
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What color(s) are you looking for?
Interesting. Seems to be a model along the line of the FC 9401 (for diameters up to 3.15mm), or the FC 4602 “Partout”, or the Staedtler 787 “Mars Pan Technico”; it is, however, reduced in general size — or at least is seems so from the video. Truly nice piece, especially with that imprint extended over more than one facet of the barrel.
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Definitely favoring the wooden versions but I’m noticing they’re on a few models, lumograph, lumograph technico, mars technico. My curse is the need to have mostly decent print still on the pencil.
There are some with yellow stripes and some with red, some just black and white.
At the risk of sounding uneducated, I don’t really know the difference just yet in their designations. 1018,1021,1007 as a few and also some of the older 780. There are many more but these are a few.
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