Pentel ID Book Clarification - Opinions Wanted

I am working on a new version of the Pentel Pencil ID Book, and one of the things I would like to do is make the text a little more readable. There is only so much I can do, since this is database driven, and the text is stored in memo fields.

One change I have contemplated is adding spaces to the beginning of paragraphs. Here is an example:
Before:

After:

Do you think this is better? It currently has 5 spaces before the paragraph. Looks good, more spaces, less spaces, remove the spaces?

I am just wondering if it looks cleaner, even with the multiple short sentences.

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I’m good either way. Just grateful to have this resource that you so generously pour yourself into.

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As someone who works in graphic design, I would say ‘no’ to the paragraph spacing mainly because the paragraphs are actually quite short, resulting in a single line of following text that disrupts the visual flow on the left margin. This kind of spacing works better when you have long form articles.

What I suggest is to explore paragraph line spacing (if available), or simply add line-breaks.

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What really prompted me to think about this was the P1035/P1037 page, with the additional text I added.

To me this is almost unreadable. And unfortunately, on several of the pages, I don’t have the room for a break between paragraphs.

I already had to shrink down the picture a bit on this page.

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Honestly, I think a double spacing would achieve what you’re attempting to the best it can be.
A space between each paragraph.

Pentel is a very nice pencil.

It’s got so many features and such.

This is the Japanese characters for Pentel ぺんてる

Thank you for your time.

Also, is there a capability to create a sort of pop up link for each of these things?

The main page has the pictures and dimensions with a “more info” link that pops up the additional info?

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The other trick I used to solve ‘lack of space’ was to increase the number of text columns - the text is redistributed more legibly. Not sure if that’s possible.

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Classic double space to start paragraphs and maybe experiment with bullet point lists where appropriate. (Like after - Text reads:)

Any info on when they stopped with the cleaning rod drilled into the cap?

maybe try making mfg country, dist country and price tag on the same row to save space?

I could try, but the only problem with that is that all 3 of these are sometimes multiple lines. I can see what I can do.

Here it is with Size & Year on one line and MFG & Dist Countries on one line.

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I think that looks pretty clean and legible, Jimmy. Nice work!

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I like this arrangement: clean separation of the paragraphs, no indentation required, a few items on a two-column layout, but overall very clear. Nice job!

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I also like this one best. It’s good to see someone working on such a book. I’m working on one myself on my niche collection interest. Are you planning on printing the book in the future (of course, hyperlinks wouldn’t work - but still)? I really like the books by Jonathan Veley.

Looks nice, make it an exception for Kerry page or any pages need more space, and keep unchanged for the rest might be a good solution?

The problem with printing the book, is that I don’t have permission on all of the pictures. A lot of them are grabbed off the web, especially the more uncommon pencils, plus some are grabbed from Pentel catalogs.

I do list where the pictures came from, but I could not publish the book for sale.

I have thought about putting it together as a Publish On Demand, where I don’t make anything on it, but the other problem is that this is always evolving and I put together a new version 2-3 times a year.

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Off topic a bit (sorry) but a testament to Jimmy’s work - every time I bought a Pentel pencil I’d print out that page from Jimmy’s book. Eventually, I got so many I had to bind them into a book. It’s the yellow binder.

With imitation being the best form of flattery, I proceeded to do the same with all the other pencil manufacturers that I have and that is the orange book.

I am certain that it is Jimmy’s work that has influenced me and my collection to be so Pentel heavy as all the research was already done, and for that I am extremely grateful.

This has gone on to become the basis for my YouTube channel! Pretty much anytime I run across anything interesting about one of the pencils I own, I jot it down on it’s page. Including the price I paid so I hope my wife never finds this book and reads it. :thinking:

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