P207 for woodworking

Hi, new to mechanical pencils! I retired and want to up my game in woodworking, so I need a mechanical pencil for marking cuts etc. I have so far a Kitaboshi W07, a Pentel P207, a Pentel Graphgear 500, all with 0.7mm leads, as well as two Zebra M301s with 0.5mm leads. I prefer Japanese pencils (and woodworking/mechanical tools).

I like the P207 best. Its cone provides the best visibility alongside a rule or straight edge. Still working on best leads, though I like Pentel Ain Stein 2B 0.7mm well so far. But, I want a grippier grip. I was thinking about applying cold-shrink tubing over the grip. Has anyone done anything to get a better grip?

I may end up buying more pencils just because they are so inexpensive, but I don’t have a collection strategy.

Rick

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Hi @rickcarpenter welcome

I always loved the p209 for your exact same reasons.

I look forward to seeing more of you

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I used to be a finish carpenter/cabinet maker and agree about the P209 for marking wood. The thicker lead prevented breaking for me. I also used Pentel Twist-Erase 0.9 quite a lot. You might appreciate the grip on those.

Eventually found I needed a larger lead and used the Sanford Spike 1.1mm.

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I use a P209 out in the shop. Less chance of breakage.

It is the ONLY place I voluntarily use anything larger than a 0.5mm.

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Hmmm, a built-in grip on the Twist-Erase. I was so focused on the drafting style narrow cone that I neglected to look for one with a grip. Thanks @Ceramicland!

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Hey, glad to help! It took me awhile to find what worked for woodwork :nerd_face:

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…I don’t think they make the Spike anymore, but this is a Spike homage that seems like the same design:

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….last reply (promise):wink: The other great thing about the P209 is it is thin enough to use in a lead pointer to get as sharp a point as you need!

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Sharpening fineliners! Why didn’t I ever think of this? I’m going to give it a try today just for fun.

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Note: I’ve never broken a 0.9mm lead with this Dahle unit. My Staedtler one breaks ā€˜em almost every time​:laughing:. (It might be defective) But a great technique with the right lead pointer…

Here’s my unintended collection so far. Top is a Tombow mono zero 2.3mm eraser, next is a ca 2004 GraphGear 500, next is a Sharp P207, next is a Zebra M301, next is a Kitaboshi W07, and finally my today’s purchase a Walmart cheapy Bic Break Resistant Pro. All Japanese, and all 0.7mm except for the 0.5mm Zebras (they came in a 2-pack, but not a shakur).

The Tombow will serve as my go-to eraser. The GG500 was my son’s when he went off to college for architecture in 2004. He changed majors and I inherited the pencil. I bought the Zebra the other day because I picked it up to look at it and wth I just bought it because I had it in my hand. I started off with the Kitaboshi because I thought, hey a wooden pencil for woodworking! Well, it has too shallow a cone for my liking and the gray color lets it get lost in the clutter of my workbench (hence the pigtail). Today I looked at the Twist Erase III at Walmart but it seemed too fat for my liking. The Bic was made in Japan so I bought it again because I had it in hand. Actually, it’s kinda nice for a cheapster. The lead sleeve extends 3mm at first click and doesn’t have any wobble.

The Sharp and the Bic will be my woodworking pencils. They both have brass internals and feel right in my hand while working. Maybe I’ll just dip my fingers in rubber cement for better grip.

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Nice, looks like you are getting it dialed in.

FYI: Bic also makes a Criterium model similar to your Bic…should you wander all the way to 2mm side of the street. :laughing: Since they sharpen to a razor point, retract and resists breakage, some woodworkers like leadholders too…(Bic model next to original French Criterium 2613)

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I have a BIC Criterium 0.5 that looks almost identical.

But mine is plastic body and plastic clutch.

Your Bic-body looks metal? Where can I get that?

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The barrel is all plastic on this one. I don’t know much about mechanical pencils in the first place, and Bics even less. So, sorry, I’m of no help to you finding a metal barrel Bic.

This one’s internals have a plastic sleeve and then some brass components inside that.

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Sure fooled me.

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What you see is a shiny reflection, but that doesn’t make me less of a very confused idiot. The Walmart website description says metal barrel but the Office Depot website says plastic… so I don’t know… but I think it’s plastic. It’s not magnetic. A scrape test showed it wasn’t black all the way through. The scrape didn’t appear to be aluminum, and I got some swarf, so strike 1 against aluminum. The finish is very good, it looks plastic-y. Chemsourcedirect.com says the Break Resistant (not Pro) pencil barrel is plastic, while not listing a material for the Pro barrel (it only says ā€œpremium barrelā€).

I got it at Walmart for less than $5. Package says it won an award in 2024 (package says :copyright:MMXXV, item MVR7P1), though a search at Bic’s website doesn’t list it by name or item #.

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Thanks for the thorough reply and research.

It appears we have identical pencils, with one of my favourite PLASTIC bodies.

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