Faber-Castell TK-matic and TK-matic L

Is the cap on these two pencils the same?

I have a TK-matic L that is in great condition except for the cap, which is missing the brown plug to indicate the lead size :unamused:

I also have a spare TK-matic with a cap, but I am struggling to convince myself that the finishes on both caps are the same. The TK-matic L almost seems to have a more subtle brushed effect, but I could be hallucinating this.

Basically, I want to know if I can swap the caps to have a truly complete piece. If there’s a difference in the finishes—even a minor one—then I don’t want to do this.

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They look the same to me. I don’t think FC would bother to manufacture a completely new cap just for the ā€œLā€ model. But just to be candid, I did have a regular TK-matic for a year or so before I sold it, then got the TK-matic L. I did scrounge up some photos… and they appear to have the same satin silver finish. However, it might be possible that the brown plastic insert at the back end might be a little darker on the ā€œLā€ model (unless that’s just due to the random chance of aging).


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I,'d weight them. Can do this next Sunday when i’m back home.

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Thanks, that’s pretty much what I’ve concluded.

And btw, the lighting on a couple of those original TK-matic pictures is sublime. Minimal shadowing, too :star_struck:

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Adding my 2 bits and will echo from what I’ve seen, they’re pretty much all the same and any variation in the finish is not on purpose.

However I do have one that’s a little different than the others in my collection that I’ve wondered about. In addition to being more polished and less satin, it actually has a lead hardness of HB embossed in the end of the cap rather than being blank and using the silly stickers. Not positive of course, but my current guess is that it’s an earlier specimen since I believe the stickers came later down the road… but I’m not even sure when those came along so just a guess.

I can’t get a good picture, but the only other difference that I’ve found with the caps, is on the inside. On the underside of the brown topper there’s a maker’s mark on all of mine that have metal eraser holders. The black one with a brushed finish has a plastic eraser holder and the inside of the cap looks different and also doesn’t have a maker’s mark. That one is also a prototype though and one of the only I’ve seen with that font on the clip, so who knows, it was probably made out of the parts bin and can’t be used to correlate much of anything. Now that I’m looking at them all, that one is also slightly darker in color and has ā€œsharperā€ edges than the rest.



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This is an epic contribution to the thread, thank you :pray:t6:

I also noticed that ā€œGermanyā€ appears more condensed—and with a taller cap (capital letter) height—on the black specimen’s clip :face_with_monocle:

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Agreed, a very informative thread. My TK-Matic has the embossed ā€œHBā€ and I assumed they all came like that. The box came with the lead hardness stickers.

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Yep, that’s supposedly a prototype and I don’t think I’ve ever seen that font used on another TK, but it had to have been right? I have to assume as a prototype, the engineer is grabbing whatever they can from the general parts bin available at the time… but I’m also noticing how squared the edges are… would they stamp one just for a prototype AND use a different font?

Have you or anyone else ever seen this font used on another TK?

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Only three of mine came with the lead hardness stickers but unless you’re the original owner, you just don’t know what someone has done. Are you the original owner of this one? I have a few questions if so. :grinning:

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No - ā€œnew old stockā€, but obviously the seller could’ve added the stickers.
Can you post a case an embossed pencil came in if you have it please?

Edit: photos of my TK-Matic case. The pamphlet has instructions for the stickers and the cap is recessed at the top, so the stickers made sense to me. But I see your point.

btw, what is the barrel material of the TK-Matic with the unique font?

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Unfortunately the embossed one I have didn’t come with a box. Interesting to note, the four pamphlets I have do not mention the lead indicator stickers as yours does.

It’s a black plastic with hairline finish.


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Thank you for sharing the photos - its a truly unique pencil!

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I am quite sure, that the less-glamorous packagings of the tk-matic (the transparent plastic things, e.g.) did not contain lead degree stickers…

And one important question is: are there other imprinted degrees (H , 2H etc)? Is it more complex to have a complete tk matic set than we believed? :crazy_face:

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That’s such a cool piece! Definitely looks like a prototype. I can’t remember off hand, but had you posted about having been fortunate enough to buy some old Faber Castell pieces from someone who’d worked there long ago?

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Not directly, but I got this and the white alpha-matic from a seller who had gotten them from a former FC employee.

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Were any TKs made in West Germany? If so do they differ from Germany made?

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The majority, if not all of them were produced (1979 - 1990) while it was still West Germany but from what I’ve seen so far, they only used Germany on the clip.

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Thank you. Some alphas say ā€˜W. Germany’ on the clip. Thought maybe the TK as well.

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I definitely wondered too because they also did it with the PD date stamps.

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If you’re worried about matching metal finishes you can also remove the plastic top and insert it in the other eraser cover. I did this not too long ago in a similar circumstance to yours and there wasn’t any glue; it appeared to just be friction-fit. I used some rubber jar lid grippers for purchase on the parts to avoid marring any surfaces and just twisted+pulled off the top.

None of my tk-matics have any permanent lead grade indicators embossed or imprinted. They all appear to to be first gen to me, so I don’t know if the permanent examples came from later generations? Different markets?

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