What is a P1005?
It is a proto type kind of pencil for pentel excalibur. Was made when pentel was still PENTEL.
That is the Unknown Model 11 from the Pentel ID Book. Another one down.
Before this, I have only ever seen two of them. Mine (which is a 0.7mm version) and the 4th in the case below:
It is an Excalibur that was a proto-Scepter. If you look closely at image 6 of the Auction, the Excalibur Crown is a line drawing, and this is the ONLY pencil I have ever seen this on.
Jimmy mentions it on page 445 of the book.
Edit: looks like Jimmy and I replied at the same time.
Kind of. This one is a 0.5mm version, which I assume would be the Japanese version, and mine appears to the the US version (0.7mm).
And as far as the PENTEL and Pentel, this was common in late 1970 to 1971. The name had been changed to that on the body of the pencil, but Pentel was notorious for using up old parts, and thus the old Typewriter font on the clip.
This would make my pencil a P1007 (Version 1), which now makes sense of why the US Silver Excalibur (SG series) is a P1007.
And I now think I know what Unknown Model 08 pencils is: an SG7. It is probably the first Black Excalibur, based on the SG (Pentel SG (precursor to the Excalibur and SG# pencils)) that was in the 1970 Japanese One-Sheet, which was a 0.5mm. The Unknown Model 08 is a matte black 0.7mm US Excalibur, and was probably later replaced by the glossy black SG7.
This finally makes sense of all of the US Excalibur model numbers.
Silver: Started as the P1007 version of the auction, then morphed into the SG Silver version.
Gold: US took the PX21 and stuck “7-” in the middle to make it PX7-21.
Black: Unknown Model 08, is probably SG7, which morphed into the Glossy Black SG7.
The bids are OUT OF THIS WORLD…
I seriously hope that whoever wins this, will break it up to sell individually. At this moment there are already 110 bids and it has only been on sale for 6 hours, and has over 6 days left. Right now they are US$133.00 each, and probably going to be pushing $200 each by the end.
It picked up so quickly! And we have 6 days left! Goodness…
I like to imagine how the person who discovered these felt at the precise moment of discovery, knowing the entire collection world would be blown away by the unobtanium.
Then again, since they’re selling the entire thing as a single lot, maybe they didn’t really know what they had
And man oh man do I love that stepdown joint
I have a feeling that this seller has more bangers they’ll be listing.
This is the same seller who sold the boxes of W-Knocks, and the Gold and Silver Scepters.
Can someone take a look at the Excalibur US Brochure 1971 pdf in the Catalog directory (Dropbox - Pentel Catalogs - Simplify your life).
Take a close look at the picture on page 3, looking at the ring on the pencil and the pen. When I look at it closely now, it appears to be the Scepter ring, instead of the Excalibur Crown ring or the SG Gear ring. If so, this would explain the change in the set (EX15 [P1007 & R-10]) to the later EX12. The EX15 was with the Scepter version of the P1007, and the EX12 is with the later SG-style Excalibur.
Does this look/sound correct?
The ring I see looks just like the P1005.
That is what I see now, as well. I have this set, but without the brochure.
Interesting to see the break-out bid war on this.
I don’t recognize the top 2 bidders. The first has only 5 auctions to their name and the second is new. Figures. Any veteran bidders wouldn’t be going this nuts in the beginning.
The 3rd bidder is “81b”, someone who I’ve seen do a ton of bidding over the past few months, on some auctions with heavy hitting bid amounts.
At least one of those is probably a proxy from someone here or in the subreddit
Do you have a Yahoo Japan ID? I cannot get one with a US mobile number.
I signed up with Yahoo Japan long ago. I did not use a mobile number. It only required an email address. But it also prompted for a credit card number, which I was able to defer that.
Still, you can look at bid history using Aucfan. No account required. You can also use some proxies to look at bids, like ZenMarket, but it strips off winning auction feedback numbers.